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	<title>Comments on: Building the high spires &#8211; enabling elastic cloud computing</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in. I&#039;m routinely working on these problems at work. None of the solutions out there seem to solve this well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in. I&#8217;m routinely working on these problems at work. None of the solutions out there seem to solve this well.</p>
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		<title>By: William Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s not packages or a packaging format.  Are you actually deploying packages or are you deploying virtualized servers.  Why not have you build process output that.  Snapshot and deploy. 

Anyway, won&#039;t work if you want to move the packages between servers, unless you want those moves as part of your build process.  But you know what I mean, it&#039;s all about the granularity that you care about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s not packages or a packaging format.  Are you actually deploying packages or are you deploying virtualized servers.  Why not have you build process output that.  Snapshot and deploy. </p>
<p>Anyway, won&#8217;t work if you want to move the packages between servers, unless you want those moves as part of your build process.  But you know what I mean, it&#8217;s all about the granularity that you care about.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fahrni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Fahrni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, 

We had a real mess at work with our development teams a few of years back. Everybody was grabbing code from other groups, building it on their own boxes, and shipping their own &quot;custom&quot; builds. It was a real mess.

In the end we needed a packaging scheme that would work on Linux and Windows so teams could package and release their components for use by other groups. It was decided to use RPM on Linux and INNO Setup on Windows (I would have picked MSI&#039;s, but INNO works quite well.)

To describe dependencies YML was used. To parse and install the packages using the YML file a Perl script was written to download and install the packages, and a Ruby script was used to create the initial packages, using either RPM or INNO, depending on platform, again driven by a YML file.

This has made the development process an absolute dream.

I know it&#039;s not quite as polished as you&#039;re looking for, but it may point you in the right direction, and most of the technologies used are completely open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, </p>
<p>We had a real mess at work with our development teams a few of years back. Everybody was grabbing code from other groups, building it on their own boxes, and shipping their own &#8220;custom&#8221; builds. It was a real mess.</p>
<p>In the end we needed a packaging scheme that would work on Linux and Windows so teams could package and release their components for use by other groups. It was decided to use RPM on Linux and INNO Setup on Windows (I would have picked MSI&#8217;s, but INNO works quite well.)</p>
<p>To describe dependencies YML was used. To parse and install the packages using the YML file a Perl script was written to download and install the packages, and a Ruby script was used to create the initial packages, using either RPM or INNO, depending on platform, again driven by a YML file.</p>
<p>This has made the development process an absolute dream.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s not quite as polished as you&#8217;re looking for, but it may point you in the right direction, and most of the technologies used are completely open.</p>
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