Comments on: Learning to program for the iPhone http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/ Mac OS X, iPhone, Tech, and daily life in Seattle Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:29:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joe http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-99455 Joe Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:59:55 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-99455 Your best bet is to dive into some books - I'd recommend <a href="http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596803551" rel="nofollow">Head First iPhone Development</a> from O'Reilly. That does presume some programming background however, so you may want to start with other books depending on your knowledge. Your best bet is to dive into some books – I’d recommend Head First iPhone Development from O’Reilly. That does presume some programming background however, so you may want to start with other books depending on your knowledge.

]]> By: Niko http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-99444 Niko Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:13:18 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-99444 Hi I am completely new in all this, I mean programing. I did Basic very long time ago (spectrum 48) but just for fun. I´ve got time in my hands and I really see a potential in my new iPone. I would like to learn how to program applications for the iPhone, so any help will be really appreciate. Hi I am completely new in all this, I mean programing. I did Basic very long time ago (spectrum 48) but just for fun. I´ve got time in my hands and I really see a potential in my new iPone. I would like to learn how to program applications for the iPhone, so any help will be really appreciate.

]]> By: Tom http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-89536 Tom Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:05:28 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-89536 If the types of people you are talking about are going to struggle to understand concepts of C such as pointers and memory management; they are not going to be able to jump straight into ObjC for the iPhone. ObjC uses pointers everywhere and the iPhone doesn't have a Garbage Collector (only Mac development has the new ObjC2 GC) I would recommend learning C, then an object orientated language such as C++, C# (Mono), or Ruby. This way they can grasp the fundamentals before attempting anything commercial. It is hard. But isn't that half the fun???? If the types of people you are talking about are going to struggle to understand concepts of C such as pointers and memory management; they are not going to be able to jump straight into ObjC for the iPhone.

ObjC uses pointers everywhere and the iPhone doesn’t have a Garbage Collector (only Mac development has the new ObjC2 GC)

I would recommend learning C, then an object orientated language such as C++, C# (Mono), or Ruby. This way they can grasp the fundamentals before attempting anything commercial.

It is hard. But isn’t that half the fun????

]]> By: Sasha http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-87410 Sasha Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:30:02 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-87410 I just purchased the development program from Apple. Jumped in with out any knowledge of programing. I'm a graphic designer, know how program in Flash do some web development. I have a great idea for a app and what it will do. Sounds like that after reading your posts that I'm going to have a heck of a time getting this done!...and it looks like I'm going to learn how to program as I go!!...Sucker for pain arent I!!! Keep you posted I just purchased the development program from Apple. Jumped in with out any knowledge of programing. I’m a graphic designer, know how program in Flash do some web development. I have a great idea for a app and what it will do. Sounds like that after reading your posts that I’m going to have a heck of a time getting this done!…and it looks like I’m going to learn how to program as I go!!…Sucker for pain arent I!!! Keep you posted

]]> By: Uli Kusterer http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-63401 Uli Kusterer Thu, 29 May 2008 07:58:05 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-63401 Just to explain a bit, the reason why I wrote MotV is exactly what Joe says: You may be able to wiggle through ObjC and Cocoa without knowing memory management, but eventually you will have to drop down to C for this or that feature, and even in a garbage-collected programming language, you need to understand ownership and control destruction order. MotV is supposed to help people learn the C programming basics they need for ObjC. Just to explain a bit, the reason why I wrote MotV is exactly what Joe says: You may be able to wiggle through ObjC and Cocoa without knowing memory management, but eventually you will have to drop down to C for this or that feature, and even in a garbage-collected programming language, you need to understand ownership and control destruction order. MotV is supposed to help people learn the C programming basics they need for ObjC.

]]> By: Gary W. Longsine http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-62985 Gary W. Longsine Sun, 25 May 2008 23:51:38 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-62985 I've had good luck pointing such folk to the book, Programming in Objective C, by Stephen Kochan. It's an excellent introduction for programmers that come from scripting or other non-C backgrounds. http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Objective-C-Developers-Library-Stephen/dp/0672325861 I’ve had good luck pointing such folk to the book, Programming in Objective C, by Stephen Kochan. It’s an excellent introduction for programmers that come from scripting or other non-C backgrounds.

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Objective-C-Developers-Library-Stephen/dp/0672325861

]]> By: Joe http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-61432 Joe Mon, 05 May 2008 14:56:06 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-61432 Frankly I found that folks without little programming background have had a very hard time dealing with the low-level constructs of C. Objective-C by itself isn't hard - and it's very easy to skim over some of the more difficult concepts in C. That leaves a lot of folks in sort of a bind just a bit further on when they want to use something from CoreFoundation or they're having an error with the compiler that they just don't understand. I actually prefer to recommend <a href="http://bignerdranch.com/products.shtml" rel="nofollow">Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X</a> by Aaron Hillegass as an "Intro to Objective-C" book. Frankly I found that folks without little programming background have had a very hard time dealing with the low-level constructs of C. Objective-C by itself isn’t hard – and it’s very easy to skim over some of the more difficult concepts in C. That leaves a lot of folks in sort of a bind just a bit further on when they want to use something from CoreFoundation or they’re having an error with the compiler that they just don’t understand.

I actually prefer to recommend Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass as an “Intro to Objective-C” book.

]]> By: Eugene http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2008/05/04/learning-to-program-for-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-61424 Eugene Mon, 05 May 2008 10:49:54 +0000 http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/?p=604#comment-61424 What about "Programming in Objective-C"? Look it up on Amazon. What about “Programming in Objective-C”? Look it up on Amazon.

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